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reading today, "Go bishops and laity in the controversy over celibacy each other" in the newspaper

A certain "tsv" in the Welt am Sonntag writing like that. Interesting thing is this Lammert Called the "lay" Schavan, Kiechle, Vesper. A Parliament President, a Minister, a provincial medal, the speaker is a Catholic who call Central Committee, against its recruitment mechanisms, the principles of democratic centralism of the Leninist Central Committee of the CPSU still look reasonably democratic basis. Not mentioned, but of course the co-intended and Professorii Doktorii have signed the memorandum in 2011, hochbesoldete education officials in the service of the State and the Church, Gremiokraten and officials among them not a few who fit the crisp characterization Hans Küng in the English language. Left-wing wackos on the fringe. What we

close it?

Catholic Men and women who earn their hard bread outside the chests public or quasi public namely church service dedicated to especially the family work or work in other companies than those of the public service to sheltered workshops, one at least not: the base.

Well, yes of course belong to the base nor the dialogue partners on the other side. SOUL converse And so then, too, the long life of the municipal real episcopal officials alienated voters with the life of her estranged and with the policy switches from the ivory tower in a dialogue process of how hear, is to last for 20 years. What really can not be caricatured.

an otherwise horrible idea leads you realize that this process has led to the Memorandum 2011th What will be probably at the very end of this process? One may not imagine.

germinate but then sometimes the hope that the dialogue partners are, as the Husni Mubarak of German Catholicism. These are not the young revolutionaries in the black leather jacket. There are gray-haired men and women, short in some significant parts before or even long after retirement age, who had their heyday in the 60s and a few following decades. By the great Start dreaming and saw one of the greatest disasters of Catholic life in the last three centuries. The need to see if they wanted to see it because that faith is threatening to go out in our country, like a candle that has no more food. And know that could, if they wanted to know because you're wearing a good measure of blame for this disaster. But nevertheless still think that not too much but too little of the drug, they have given the Church, is the cause of the illness.

I remind them of the shamans and alchemists who administered the Chinese Emperor Qin Shǐhuángdì mercury-containing drugs, so that this living death overcome and ever. The emperor died of Minamata disease.

What this really quacks might think that but sometimes even a little confused-looking Mr. Zulehner few weeks ago openly acknowledged:

the priests it today so that the boys were thinking of her often old. And older priest would stand by young thinking. The pastoral theologian Paul Michael Zulehner warns against it, because in the future of the church by some threatened could:

"I have the impression that in this development, the filter of the celibate life is involved, this brings in us basically modern objectors in the. Church. So you have to ask already, it would not be better to dedicate and married women? If you would people devote to normal civilian jobs even as priests, we would hope that we are not a sect to be. "

is now meant not" modernity "but modernism. By the way, belong to Zulehner 75% of the younger priests to the so-called . modernity objectors The description should be fairly accurate, the tie Priest -. or its stricter version, the open-collar-priest -.. is clearly a dying breed Anyone who has ever talked to a young priest or seminarian is to know

On this background sounds, the memorandum Somehow after 2011 "in the last fight."

Donoso Cortez, in his Essay on Catholicism, liberalism and socialism coined the term "clasa discutidora. The core of his critique of liberalism is that liberalism back out of a decision. His ideal was the "eternal conversation," the core of the "republican values" - to speak with Hern Lindner - confined to purely procedural standards. Liberalism know no end, no truth and no need for a decision. In a famous metaphor Cortes says that the liberals on the issue of Christ or Barabbas with a motion to adjourn or the establishment of a Commission of Inquiry would respond. The "class be discussed" the Catholic functionary and political world there appears in a decades-long process of dialogue without meaning and purpose their personal Paradisum. I wonder if the marquis of Valdegamas - and a descendant of the conquistadors Hernando Cortes - a clasa discutidora catolica have imagined?